Vote me for Emperor.

[[GG]Lord von Döbeln]

Hmm...
I say that IMO some forms of government involvment in the society is good and works well; you say - No it never works!
I try to give a few examples of how IMO it does work in my country; you say - No it never works!
I try to make the point that, again in my opinion, yes it does work pretty well in many areas and try to back it up with more specific examples from my own society, pointing to rather well-accepted "quality of life" phenomena such as life expectancy, infant mortality and democracy level; You say - No it never works!
I say - Ahem I'm sorry but is it possible to have another point of view than you on this in any way? You say - No it never works!
You back up your die-hard standpoint of that "it never works" with the rationale that "It's a FACT it never works!" Wooah! I didn't see that one coming!!! Gag me with a Sthingy that's a brilliant argument!!!! Well if it's a FACT then what can I say!?!?!?!

And then you hit me with the mother of all arguments:
"We haven't gone into specifics*, except for the "centralized planning is impossible" argument (which I still think you don't understand)."
(*Ahem ok? Didn't I geve like 5 or 6 very specific examples?!)

WOW!!! So not only do you deny me the right to have a differing opinion since you HAVE no opinions, only "facts" and "undeniable truths", and deny the fact that I have been trying to put forth VERY specific examples about the Swedish society, you also tell me I'm just too stupid or uneducated or uninformed to understand what you are talking about!!!! WOOOAAAH!!! What a Zinger!!! I'm in shock and awe before your debating prowess, oh You Most Knowing and Informed One!!! Before I haul meesa uneducated, stoopid, ignoramus empty-brain out of here, slithering on my unworthy belly backwards in Your Informedness' magnificent and most learned presence, returning to the black and cold cesspool of poverty, tyranny, oppression, coercion and generally revolting pile of puke that is government run Sweden, let me leave you, if I may be so presumptous and bold, with a quote (from a man who lived in a small country called England, which was incidentally also rather sucessfully run by a social democratic party called Labour for years and years in the 1900's and again in the 2000's), You - The Exalted Pinnacle of All Human Knowledge:

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Hamlet Act 1, scene 5

Grovellingly Yours
[Gargantuan Gagagoogoo-nitwit]LvD

[[GG]Buxford]

Oct 21, 2008 11:30:21 GMT -5 [GG]Lord von Döbeln said:

Hmm...
I say that IMO some forms of government involvment in the society is good and works well; you say - No it never works!
I try to give a few examples of how IMO it does work in my country; you say - No it never works!
I try to make the point that, again in my opinion, yes it does work pretty well in many areas and try to back it up with more specific examples from my own society, pointing to rather well-accepted "quality of life" phenomena such as life expectancy, infant mortality and democracy level; You say - No it never works!
I say - Ahem I'm sorry but is it possible to have another point of view than you on this in any way? You say - No it never works!
You back up your die-hard standpoint of that "it never works" with the rationale that "It's a FACT it never works!" Wooah! I didn't see that one coming!!! Gag me with a Sthingy that's a brilliant argument!!!! Well if it's a FACT then what can I say!?!?!?!

I've given you several general, economic reasons why it can't work (with examples from several different countries, including yours), none of which you have rebutted. The centralized planning argument is one of the most devastating arguments against socialism and government programs (try reading von Mises, Rothbard, and von Hayek), and you have yet to even try to refute it or even understand it.

And then you hit me with the mother of all arguments:
"We haven't gone into specifics*, except for the "centralized planning is impossible" argument (which I still think you don't understand)." (*Ahem ok? Didn't I geve like 5 or 6 very specific examples?!)

...Of things that have nothing to do economically with socialism and state run programs; your examples have non-economic factors that affect them. Americans in general are unhealthy, Swedes aren't, therefore this has an effect on life span (I've said this twice before; I'm starting to repeat myself). By specifics, I meant things like minimum wage, price floors and ceilings, rent control, inflation, central banking, and other government interferences and regulations in the economy that don't work (and I can show you HOW they don't work, I'm not just claiming that they can't).

WOW!!! So not only do you deny me the right to have a differing opinion since you HAVE no opinions, only "facts" and "undeniable truths", and deny the fact that I have been trying to put forth VERY specific examples about the Swedish society, you also tell me I'm just too stupid or uneducated or uninformed to understand what you are talking about!!!! WOOOAAAH!!! What a Zinger!!! I'm in shock and awe before your debating prowess, oh You Most Knowing and Informed One!!! Before I haul meesa uneducated, stoopid, ignoramus empty-brain out of here, slithering on my unworthy belly backwards in Your Informedness' magnificent and most learned presence, returning to the black and cold cesspool of poverty, tyranny, oppression, coercion and generally revolting pile of puke that is government run Sweden, let me leave you, if I may be so presumptous and bold, with a quote (from a man who lived in a small country called England, which was incidentally also rather sucessfully run by a social democratic party called Labour for years and years in the 1900's and again in the 2000's), You - The Exalted Pinnacle of All Human Knowledge:

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Hamlet Act 1, scene 5

Grovellingly Yours
[Gargantuan Gagagoogoo-nitwit]LvD

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[[GG]SirDabrowski]

I love all of you.

Seriously, everyone chill. I make a post that's supposed to be 95% funny and 5% serious and everyone spazzes out. You leave me no choice. This is enough. I've had it.






I'm taking the coffee out of the mess tents.

[[GG]Remi]

von, has anyone ever told you your sexy when your pissed.

dab you know when you bring up politics, even jokingly, people will take the matter seriously.

Bux, i love the fact you believe in your ideals enough to agrue them relentlessly. Perhaps you'd be a better lawyer then penaist...


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[[GG]Buxford]

d**nit, Dab, I NEED MY COFFEE!!

Lol, Remi, I love music more than anything else in this world ('cept God and family, naturally), and I couldn't possibly give it up. Hilarious video, though, my favorite part's when Condi takes out the secretary and throws him into the fire.

[[GG]SirDabrowski]

I LOVE EVERYONE HERE.

EVERYONE CHILL. SAY YOU LOVE EACH OTHER.

[[GG]Remi]

i hope von didnt abandon us.

[[GG]Buxford]

I'd buy everyone here a Sam Adams (for Von a Scotch) if I could. Except for Dab, who doesn't drink beer cause he's a f*g.

[[GG]SirDabrowski]

I am going to kill you.

[[GG]Buxford]

Bring it on. I'm ready.

[[GG]SirDabrowski]

Nah. I don't think I could kill a virgin.

[[GG]Buxford]

Zing

[[GG]SirDabrowski]

WE NEED TO PUT OUR PETTY DIFFERENCES ASIDE.

BECAUSE BARRACK OBAMA IS NOW PRESIDENT. WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES!

[[GG]Buxford]

No need to overreact, Comrade Dabrowski. Communism in this country is the change we need!

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